zzdcar
Home
/
Reviews
/
Beyond Cars
/
Elon Musk's Tweet About Rockets On A Car Is The Same Idea I Had Six Years Ago
Elon Musk's Tweet About Rockets On A Car Is The Same Idea I Had Six Years Ago-September 2024
2024-02-19 EST 22:14:05

Come on, Elon, try to keep up. I know you’re busy running all those companies and spending some quality , but if you took a minute or two to do a quick Google search, you’d have noticed that I into a car just . This was back in 2012! I didn’t follow up on it for two reasons: A) there’s some real issues, and 2) I’m kind of a broke dumbass.

Just so everyone knows what I’m going on about, here’s Elon’s tweet:

Okay, so if we look at what Elon’s proposing here, with 10 small rocket thrusters arranged around the car, it’s clear he’s describing a reaction control system (RCS), just like what’s used on spacecraft to orient, maneuver, and position the craft in space. Again, adding a rocket-based RCS system to a car is

There's been a number of rocket-powered cars, and while they're all pretty fun, they're basically…

I agree with Elon here: I think there’s some real handling improvements to be gained if you can exert controlled, specific force on part of the car at will. For example, in my article, which, were it a human child, would now be old enough to enter the first grade, I proposed a rear-mounted four-RCS thruster system, which I mocked up on a Porsche 911:

And, just to give some visual examples of how such a setup could work, here’s the RCS thruster package compensating for both oversteer and understeer situations:

Conceptually, it’s a fun idea! Elon’s proposed 10-thruster system could, of course, provide a finer amount of control, at the expense of complexity, weight, fuel requirements, and so on.

I consulted our indentured physicist, , about the concept back in the day, and while he agreed you could achieve some remarkable handling abilities, those would come at a pretty significant costs, literally and figuratively:

This would come at a cost, of course. The RCS uses monomethylhydrazine as its fuel, which is toxic and carcinogenic at low concentrations. You really, really don’t want that stuff around. Its oxidizer is nitrogen tetroxide, which is also toxic and corrosive and its fumes are super irritating. You can breathe it in and days later you end up with bronchitis or emphysema. The tanks to hold all of this stuff at the right pressure (especially since nitrogen tetroxide has a boiling point of about 22 degrees C here on Earth) will add weight and bulk to the car. Luckily the thrusters themselves are only a bit over 20 lbs. each.

It’s also going to be expensive to run. Each thruster burns through a gallon of monomethylhydrazine and a gallon of nitrogen tetroxide every 6.5 seconds. Back in 2001 a gallon of both would run you about $600, and that can’t have gotten any cheaper in the last decade. Best case, you’re looking at $100 a second to run your jets.

It’s pretty clear that the conventional RCS propellants would not be an option, for costs and, um, death reasons.

Luckily, Elon seems to realize this, and may be looking into some sort of compressed air reaction system:

For those not in the know, COPV means “composite overwrapped pressure vessel,” or, basically, a light but strong bottle to hold highly compressed gases. I’m not sure compressed air thrusters would provide the power needed to move a car and break the tires’ friction against the road, but, to be fair, I haven’t done the math.

Elon also mentions possible methane-fueled thrusters:

I’m not sure jets of methane exhaust are all that great, either. When I wrote about this way back, I was thinking of it more in the context of a track car, where you’d actually have a need for extreme handling enhancements, and where the exhaust jets wouldn’t be as much of an issue.

A street-going Tesla Roadster with the SpaceX ten-thruster package, though, that would pose some issues, even if it was just compressed air. What would be the effects on the car in the next lane if you actuated, say, five RCS thrusters on one side to effect a quick lane change? Or took a tight RCS-assisted turn around a corner with a sidewalk nearby?

Action-reaction doesn’t just go away because there’s people five feet away and blowing them over with a jet of compressed air wouldn’t be polite.

Putting RCS thrusters on a car is a fun idea, but also kind of a terrible idea, which is likely why I even ever thought about it. Of course, I’m likely by no means the first to imagine this; here’s a game about racing cars on the moon from even before my article that

Also, where Elon ends his tweet there with “Maybe they will even allow a Tesla to fly…” I’m going to come out and say no. No they won’t.

Not fly. Maybe hop.

Anyway, Elon, I’m not upset you cribbed my idea. Maybe one day I’ll try building some sleek electric cars with iffy build quality and we’ll be even!

I kid, I kid! Jeez.

Comments
Welcome to zzdcar comments! Please keep conversations courteous and on-topic. To fosterproductive and respectful conversations, you may see comments from our Community Managers.
Sign up to post
Sort by
Show More Comments
Beyond Cars
Erik Buell Racing's Death Is All Your Fault
Erik Buell Racing's Death Is All Your Fault
As you have likely heard by now, is in receivership with no apparent hope for a bailout. For the second time in a decade , except this time he has $20 million dollars of debt hanging over his company’s head and his Hero MotoCorp investors have apparently washed their hands...
Sep 15, 2025
Even More Wacky Submarine Terms You Never Knew You Wanted To Know
Even More Wacky Submarine Terms You Never Knew You Wanted To Know
Recently, Navy Chief Marty Noe took us on aand as a result we were flooded with emails and comments with readers wanting more or wanting to contribute. So let’s take an even deeper dive into the world of submariner lingo, with more wacky submarine terms from Foxtrot Alpha readers who...
Sep 15, 2025
Inside Vladimir Putin's Insane Military Disneyland (For Kids!)
Inside Vladimir Putin's Insane Military Disneyland (For Kids!)
You’d be forgiven for thinking that a military theme park, complete with tanks to crawl all over, dummy rocket-propelled grenades, and tchotchkes celebrating former heads of the secret police would be from some sort of crappy dystopian novel. But it isn’t. These are all joys found in Russia’s newest entertainment...
Sep 15, 2025
It's MiGs Versus Eagles Training High Over Europe
It's MiGs Versus Eagles Training High Over Europe
Our just flew with the Florida Air National Guard during their detachment to Graf Ignatievo, Bulgaria as part of Operation Atlantic Resolve. The Eagles were not alone during the flight; MiG-21s and MiG-29s of the Bulgarian Air Force joined up for some photo magic. American F-15s have been forward deployed...
Sep 15, 2025
America's New Carrier Launch System May Suck But Damn Does It Look Fun
America's New Carrier Launch System May Suck But Damn Does It Look Fun
The United States Navy’s been having getting its electromagnetic catapult system, known as EMALS, to work reliably on its new aircraft carriers. But just because things aren’t reliable from the get-go doesn’t mean their testing doesn’t look neat as hell. Carrier launches are notoriously violent, with fighter jet pilots blasting...
Sep 15, 2025
The Bell 525 Helicopter Cabin Looks Like A Throne Room From Star Wars
The Bell 525 Helicopter Cabin Looks Like A Throne Room From Star Wars
Bell’s 525 “Relentless” super-medium class twin turbine helicopter is attempting to set the bar for technology, capability and if you have the big BIG bucks, luxury. Gone is the traditional narrow fuselage, in its place is a wide and voluminous cabin for designers to play with. Case in point, this...
Sep 15, 2025
Copyright 2023-2025 - www.zzdcar.com All Rights Reserved