, Elon Musk has touted the . That bulletproofing, however, has always proven to be . Now, both on Joe Rogan’s podcast and , Musk is fessing up. The Cybertruck, he claims, is bulletproof — just against vanishingly few bullets.

Musk to talk about his usual topics: , , and of course the Cybertruck. In that interview, Musk claimed that a bow and arrow wouldn’t be able to puncture the truck’s skin but that a more powerful crossbow likely could. While bulletproof materials , we’re talking about the solid materials of a vehicle here. “A crossbow might get it through” does not inspire confidence.

On , though, Musk laid out a more specific claim: “.” While this may sound impressive, anyone familiar with guns will know that vanishingly few rounds actually move at subsonic speeds — in fact, subsonic ammunition is . Some calibers like .45 ACP and .380 ACP , but most other armaments — including the — will apparently be too much for the poor widdle Cybertruck.

Standard ballistic protection ratings for vehicles usually . That’s a typical starter caliber for a first firearm, the kind of thing that’s often looked down upon by gatekeeping gun enthusiasts as not a real firearm. Yet, .22 LR is a supersonic caliber — by Musk’s standard, the Cybertruck won’t even protect against that. You’d have .